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I am often asked by contact center groups why blood centers hire us. While there are usually several motivating factors for outsourcing, a common requirement that all clients make quite clear is that is that they want us to add the human element to their donor interactions.

If our clients didn’t think there was value in us adding that human element they’d just send a dog with a note, right? All kidding aside, they could use web chat, IVRs (those computerized systems that you key in or speak information to), direct mail and/or other communication mediums. They expect and even demand that we put our individual personalities into conversations, because being ourselves provides a better customer experience and enhances the relationship.

“Conversational” means sounding natural, not canned, not monotonous and not rehearsed. It also means sounding empathetic where empathy is needed and sounding appreciative for the donor support. We’ve all experienced those kinds of calls at home from ill-prepared telemarketers. They probably annoy us more than they inspire us. I don’t think that anyone would argue that a conversation, by definition, also means two-way dialog. That means not just telling prospects or customers what we want to say, but actually listening and responding to their wants, needs and concerns.

It’s probably just as important, though, to recognize what conversational marketing isn’t as it is to recognize what it is. Being conversational doesn’t mean that we can just say or not say anything that we want. Take, for example, legal disclosures. Are legally required disclosures and conversational marketing mutually exclusive? Of course not! Even if the conversation goes in a direction that makes it challenging to give all the required information, would our customers want us to put them at risk by not providing said disclosures simply because it was easier for us to ignore them? Absolutely not.

The same can be said about gathering emails. If our client really wants to collect email addresses for additional touch points with their donors, should we say, “No. We won’t ask for those because it hinders us from being conversational marketers?” That would be a silly position to take. If I were the client, I’d go to a partner who could gather email addresses AND hold a professional, two-way conversation.

When our call quality folks note that we have failed to spell back information or cover something that our client wanted us to, that doesn’t mean that we have to abandon conversational marketing to fulfill those client requirements. We can certainly be conversational without resorting to just saying anything we’d like. Being yourself, listening well, responding professionally, sounding appropriately appreciative or empathetic, and still covering what needs to be covered is part of the fun of this business and are the signs of a true professional in this channel.

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I recently stopped in at a gas station that I frequent and overheard a cashier tell another patron that their rewards program had changed.

She gave him the brochure and explained the differences that were going into effect. The cashier waiting on me said, “Well, since you overheard that, I should probably give you one too. This is a much better program. It’s about time THEY did something for the customer.”

I walked away thinking, “Wow. How can someone take such a positive thing for their customers and turn it into a negative?” Somehow, this employee had gotten a really bad attitude. I was certainly glad that he wasn’t part of the Incept team! For some reason, that situation really stuck with me, and I began to realize that there are at least two important lessons here.

Lesson One

I think it’s fairly rare for an employee to come to the job with a bad attitude – at least to a new job. Most employees come into work wanting to do a good job. They want to succeed, and they want to make their bosses proud of them. Unfortunately, and all too often, employees lose that desire somewhere along the way. The magic moment when passion for quality begins to fade is (almost always) when the employee feels like management doesn’t care about the quality of their service. Accordingly, they feel that management doesn’t care about them as a person.

In the case of this cashier, I’m pretty sure that he didn’t create the bad attitude. I expect that his manager created it by treating him as a number rather than a human being.

Lesson Two

I came away from this with another lesson: When you’re on the front lines, dealing with the customer or the donor, the people who you interact with see YOU as a representative of the company.” You ARE the company in their eyes. There is no “you” and “them.”

The words that you use, the empathy and advocacy that you convey in your voice, and the professionalism that you bring to the interaction all formulate the donor’s (customer’s) opinion about the entire organization you represent. I can point to at least three recent studies that all concluded that the attitude of the front line employee is at least one of the top two determinants – if not the single largest determinant – of  the donor’s (customer’s) future business. The most common reason why people take their business elsewhere is the poor attitude of a person who is, at any given time, the face of the company.

Managers

It’s probably not realistic to expect a mistreated employee to deliver an ideal customer experience. Employees have to feel valued and respected. That doesn’t mean that we have to baby employees and let them have their own way. We can certainly have good business rules in place to hold people accountable. We just need to treat them like we want and need to be treated.

The old “Command and Control” approach to management doesn’t cut it with today’s employees. CBS did an expose that concluded Boomers need to hear the message that they should be less of a boss and more of a coach. We need to become coaches and mentors. The very future of our businesses depends on it.

Customer Service Professionals

The next time you start to think negatively about the company and think you can distance yourself from the entity, you need to sit back and change your thinking. If you have challenges with the company, you need to have a candid conversation with your chain of command to offer suggestions on how to provide a better customer experience. Lose the “they” vocabulary. There is no “they.” When you talk with me, I think of you as the company.

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Technologically speaking, we have come an awful long way in the last sixty years.
Along with all these advances in technology came advances in the way we interact with one another. Whether it be purely for personal betterment or for more professional business pursuits, it is clear what type of impact social media networks have had on human interaction.
A big part of Incept (and being an iCME) is having the ability to listen. As we’ve touched on in prior blog posts on conversational marketing, we’ve discovered that in communcating with others, listening should always be a huge part of your conversational strategy. “You have two ears and one mouth! That means you should listen twice as much as you talk!” That is the way one of my high school math teachers put it. The same concept is easily adaptable in the online world.

So how do you start engaging? What do you listen for? What is the bigger picture and meaning behind it all?

  • How do I engage with social media? Engagement isn’t just tweeting on Twitter or posting notifications all over someone’s wall on Facebook. It is really interacting with people. This blog post is an example. Other examples would be polls, videos and other creative content posts. Engagement is all about creating or addressing conversational dialog.
  • What am I listening for? From a business perspective, I truly believe social media networks such as Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn (along with many more) provide a free source of feedback. Whether you are listening for acclaim, indifference or complaints, mentions or referrals, when people communicate there is always information to be heard and taken from what has been said. Everything from positive to negative comments should be taken advantage of as a chance to engage. Even on a broader level, social media allows the ability to listen to what is going on within a specific industry. It is all about seizing the opportunities.
  • What does this mean for my business? Taking the time to engage with your customers, business partners and industry competitors can mean the world in gaining exposure. Right now, there are over one billion people in the world with access to the Internet. Out of those one billion, about 300-400 million people share content with each other every day via online communication tools. Where there is conversation, there is information to be deciphered. With such a large audience the key is to always keep an open ear. That is easily done by engaging daily on your preferred platform of social media.

What are ways you engage with social media? What does it mean to you to listen using social media as a tool?

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Nearly everyone is online anymore.

From email to video blogs, and message boards to MMO (or mass multiplayer online) games, people are connecting and talking to each other all over the world. The Internet is freedom incarnate, but is it more than just a handy entertainment tool? Some researchers say no.

During the late summer of 2007, a massive virus broke out all over the world. Before you start to worry, it was only in a game called World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft is an MMORPG or a MMO Role Playing Game. It boasts about 6.5 million players from all over the world.

This boss, Hakkar, was responsible for the pandemic in World of Warcraft.

In the late summer of ‘07, a boss monster was added that had an ability to “infect” characters with a virus during the battle. Because of a glitch in the game’s program, however, this virus began to spread all over the game’s world. Researchers and epidemiologist saw this as a golden opportunity to study how real-world viruses could spread throughout the population.

The most interesting part was the accuracy this unintentional model showed. Some characters showed an “immunity” but acted as carriers, passing on the virus to other characters. Quarantine areas were set up, but players managed to find a way around those too.

Cities became hot spots for the virus and players began avoiding them altogether. It became a great model of how people behave during a pandemic and how a virus could spread. This online pandemic even caught the attention of The Lancet Infectious Diseases Journal!

That’s great, you may think, but it’s still only an online game. True, but there’s much more going on in the vastness of the internet. Any group of friends will tell you they have their own jokes and sayings that would mean absolutely nothing to an outsider. Usually, these words and sayings – also called memes – are limited just to that particular group, or maybe their school or business. Online, where barriers between people are next to nonexistent, they can take on a life of their own.

Internet memes are everywhere if you know where to look. For example, ask just about any kid to tell you a Chuck Norris joke and they’ll give you 20 of them in as many seconds. (Trust me, I have two younger brothers who spend even more time online than I do, and they’ve heard them all!) There are tons of websites dedicated to the jokes, and they often get passed around forums like free candy.

Another great meme, and one of my personal favorites, is the Leeroy Jenkins meme. In the video, a group pf players from World of Warcraft are planning out their strategy to run through one of the dungeons. Suddenly, one of their guild members lets out a tremendous battle cry of “Leeeeeeeeeeerooooy Jenkinnnnns!” and charges headlong into the battle and promptly gets himself and his teammates killed.

The Infamous Leeroy Jenkins both in World of Warcraft and real life.

Memes aren’t just limited to sayings and catch phrases, though.

We’ve all seen them, the ridiculous cat pictures with the terrible spelling. They make us laugh and roll our eyes, and they’re everywhere. Why are they so popular? Who knows? The point is that they are there. Other catchy memes are the infamous “Hamster Dance” and “Badger Badger Badger.” The animation is simple and, honestly, not that impressive, but the tunes are so doggone catchy that they became infamous.

Finally, we have simple linguistics. I myself am not much for online gaming, but my friends and brothers are. Try talking to a gamer about their favorite MMO or online shooter game and you’ll likely quickly become lost. These games have their own specific lingo and jargon that an outsider just won’t understand.

Even Master Yoda loves internet lingo!

It took me a minuet to realize that “WOOT” actually meant something (“We Own the Other Team) and that nOOb wasn’t a curse even though my brother uses it as one. Also, there’s a difference between a nOOb and a newb.

A newb is a newbie or someone who’s new to the game, but a nOOb is someone who has no idea what they’re doing nor are they willing to learn or improve. I won’t even get into World of Warcraft lingo. My friends speak it fluently but I still don’t understand what they’re saying 90% of the time.

All in all, the idea of the impact of these social networks fascinates me. I love seeing the impact they have not just in their online social circles, but in the media and society as a whole.

In closing, I have a challenge for you! Whoever can find me the best Internet meme (PG-13, please!) gets props in my next blog post. Don’t let me down guys!

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It’s happened to all of us.

We pick up a new gadget from the store and take it home, eager to try it out, when suddenly - WHAM! - you find that there’s “some assembly required.” While it may put a damper on your mood, you likely aren’t dismayed for long. Thankfully, your new toy comes with instructions. Now comes the tricky part: finding the English section of the manual.

Seriously, how many different languages are there? The answer is staggering. It’s estimated that there are over 6,800 different languages and about 1/3 of them have their own writing system (that’s 2,261 – in case you were curious). With so many different languages out there, it’s a wonder we can communicate at all.

Where did they all come from?

An example of a cave painting found in France.

It’s honestly hard to say when or where language first popped up. Cave drawings were the first real indicator of some form of communication, making their appearance about 35,000 years ago. The paintings are beautiful and tell stories about hunters and the animals they pursued. While they aren’t as advanced as later forms of written language, they’re definitely effective in getting their meaning across.

The next step in developing language happened in Mesopotamia and Egypt around 4,100 to 3,800 B.C. Pictographs were then invented and cuneiform writing wasn’t far behind. The most famous (and my personal favorite) example of pictographs are the hieroglyphics from ancient Egypt.

Hieroglyphics were a major advancement in writing, able to convey complex messages and

Egyptian Hieroglyphs

giving us insight into the lives and history of the Egyptians. They adorned tombs and temples,

covered scrolls and pottery and seemingly everything else you could imagine. They were made up of small pictures (hence the name pictographs) and could be strung together to make words and sentences just like modern letters. They were a great precursor for the languages that followed like Cuneiform.

Cuneiform writing actually encompasses several different forms of writing including the Sumerian, Hittite and Old Persian languages, among several others. It was the writing of Mesopotamia and clay tablets with cuneiform writing that were found mostly in Turkey, Iraq and Iran. Cuneiform enabled the Mesopotamians to get their meaning across clearly and much more quickly than paintings or hieroglyphs.

It wasn’t too long after Cuneiform and hieroglyphs that the alphabet began its development. It was the Phoenicians who laid the foundations for the alphabet that we know today. Over time, other alphabets grew from the roots the Phoenicians had given them, evolving into Greek, Latin, Aramaic, Hebrew and dozens of others.

It’s Latin, though, that is one of the most important to us English speakers.

Latin – the language of Rome – was the foundation to what’s called the Romance Languages. Many of the modern languages today are Romance Languages and can trace many of their words, as well as their alphabets, back to Rome. Spanish, Italian, French and Romanian all fall under the Romance heading.

You may have noticed that good, old English isn’t in that list. That’s because English is it’s own animal. Sure, our language has a lot in common with the Romance Languages – like their alphabet and more similar words than you can shake a dictionary at – but English comes from the Germanic family of languages.

To be more accurate, English is a massive mixture. It began in the British Isles as Celtic, but as the islands were invaded by the Angles, the Saxons and the Jutes, the Celts were pushed to the north and west into what would one day become Wales, Scotland and Ireland. It was the Angles who had the largest impact on the islands and traces of their language, Englisc, became the foundation for our own English.

Next came the Roman invaders, adding Latin to the mix and giving us the similarities we see between English and the Romance Languages.

Many years later, Briton was invaded yet again, this time by the Germanic tribes, ushering in the age of Old English. From this era, we got the poem Beowulf and the next step towards modern English. When William the Conqueror of Normandy took over Great Briton, he brought with him an early version of French (though mostly just the nobility used it).

What finally helped bring around the English we know today was the invention of the printing press. With the printing press cutting down the cost of making books, and with more people becoming literate, the spelling and grammar of English were becoming standardized. It was only a matter of time until English became the first common language in print. Sure enough, in 1604 the first English dictionary was published.

We’ve come a long way since our early days of painting stories on cave walls. Heck, English is still an evolving language as we add new words and mingle with people around the world who speak other languages. Who knows? Maybe someday after all of the mixing and matching we’ve been doing there will be one common tongue. If there’s one thing I’ve learned by looking into this it’s that language is like a new toy. There may be some assembly required, but the end result is definitely an interesting outcome.

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Ask anyone who knows me and they’ll tell you I love Halloween.

In my opinion, it’s ten times better than Christmas and Thanksgiving…combined. Think about it. It’s a holiday that breaks all of the rules. We dress up in outrageous costumes, stay out late roaming around after dark and take candy from strangers. It’s every kid’s dream come true.

But why? What is it about Halloween that captures our imagination?

Halloween really says a lot about us as a culture. Not only does it tip the hat to the olden days, when we were much more superstitious and afraid of the dark, it also gives us a chance to make light of our old fears and celebrate the season.

Truth be told, Halloween (as we know it today) is a mishmash of several older holidays. One of the oldest was Samhain, a Celtic holiday celebrating the end of the harvest season and honoring the dead. They built bonfires and “party-goers” dressed up in animal costumes while their druids told their fortunes.

When the Romans came to the British Isles, they brought with them two holidays of their own, combining them with the Celtic Samhain. The festival of Feralia was one of the days in the longer holiday Parentalia, which celebrated their ancestors and family members. Feralia had a more frightening theme,  however. At midnight, the heads of the Roman families would attempt to banish the less benign family spirits back to the spirit world, preventing misfortune in the upcoming year. The next day they celebrated their success with feasts.

The second holiday the Romans brought with them was a celebration honoring the goddess Pomona. Pomona was a harvest goddess, so it only made sense that with the fall harvest coming in, a feast to offer thanks was in order.

It wasn’t until later that Christianity caught up on the Halloween fun. In 837 A.D., Pope Boniface IV declared that November 1st was All Saint’s Day, hoping to draw people into Christianity and away from the old celebrations. Like before, however, All Saint’s Day blended together with Samhain, Pomona and Feralia, rather than simply replacing them.

That’s great, you say, but what about trick or treat? Don’t worry, I haven’t forgotten.

Trick or treating actually started somewhere between the 10th and 14th centuries. Children would go door to door asking for “soul cakes” in return for prayers for the dead. It’s also thought that Celtic children would go door to door collecting firewood for the bonfires. It only made sense to add in the costumes!

Even with the history lesson in mind, why is Halloween still lingering around like the Ghost of Holidays Past? I think it has to do with two things:

  1. People love to party. Any reason we can come up with to celebrate will do. When better to have a holiday than when the leaves are turning every shade under the sun right before the cold weather sets in?
  2. We like being scared. Why else would horror flicks still be as popular as they are?

Halloween hearkens back to the days when our ancestors huddled around the fireplace telling each other scary stories and wondering what was really outside making those noises. Not so long ago, we lived in a time where ghosts and goblins and monsters seemed a very real threat. After all, it was only a few hundred years ago when we were afraid of witches. To this day, we still have ghost hunters looking for the things that go bump in the night.

We like being scared and remember a time when scary things were everywhere. Halloween lets us indulge in being scared while still being rational, modern individuals.

So this Halloween, when you and the other ghosts and ghouls are safe inside lording over your horde of candy and watching your favorite Halloween flick, take some time to really enjoy the season. Remember where it comes from and should something go bump in the night, relax. After all, it’s just a bunch of Hocus Pocus!

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I never used to be a cat person, but, over the past few years, my opinion has changed. I have a little ball of fluff named Kid, and I can’t imagine coming home and not seeing her in the window


My cat Kid, communicator extraodinaire.

waiting for me at the end of the day. It’s strange, but I’ve actually learned a lot about communication from her.

They say it’s not what you say but how you say it. After having Kid for two years, I’m inclined to believe just that. She is not a particularly noisy cat – her verbal vocabulary consists of squeaks and purrs – but she has no trouble communicating with my husband and I. Like all well-trained humans, we’ve learned to translate what she’s trying to say.

It’s nothing elaborate like “two squeaks for yes, one for no,” (although we’re still working on that), but her “vocabulary” is still pretty complex.

How she holds her head and tail, where her eyes or ears are pointing or even something as simple as how she’s laying give great insight to how she’s feeling. Bursts of hyper energy mean my husband’s coming home, (don’t ask me how she knows, she just does) while pawing at the sliding glass door means there’s something tasty-looking in the backyard. Headbutts mean happiness and a flicking tail means she’s annoyed by us silly humans. It’s odd how such subtle gestures can speak volumes for someone who can’t “speak human.”

What about people who can though? Not counting the scores of donors I speak with every day, I probably talk to several dozen intelligent, fluently-English-speaking coworkers, friends and family members and all of them say a lot more than they realize without ever uttering a word.

It all comes down to body language.

I read a study that found very little of what we’re saying is just words alone. About 55% of communication comes from your body language, versus the 38% your tone of voice uses and the 7% that covers the actual words. Everything from eye contact to hand gestures gives insight into how someone is feeling.

You don’t even have to be talking to someone to read their body language. For example, someone standing with their arms crossed may be feeling defensive, while another person with their hands on their hips gives off an aggressive vibe. A person at a meeting leaning slightly forward in their chair and being still is attentive while their slouchy, fidgety neighbor is probably only hearing about every other word.

A lot of our nonverbal signals go back to that more primal part of our brain we tend to forget about. Humans are social animals with just as much (if not more) complex a social hierarchy than any animal. In any relationship or conversation, you have your dominant and submissive parties and that’s reflected in our body language.

Have you ever noticed how someone with a dominant personality or an angry parent seems bigger? No, they haven’t actually grown, but their body language makes it seem that way. Standing straight, feet set shoulder-width apart with an angry scowl can make nearly anyone seem bigger and more menacing. Trust me, my mom is just 5′2″, but there were times when I was growing up when I would have sworn she grew by two feet when I got in trouble!

"Of course I didn't eat your slipper. Please don't be mad at me..."

Submissive postures tend to do the opposite. With your head down and eyes lowered, you’re really showing that the other person is dominant and you’re ready to follow their lead. Slouching and touching your face or using small gestures also gives that impression. It’s the same nonverbal communication you see with wolves or dogs: head down, tail tucked and avoiding eye contact.

If you look at all of the great speakers in the world, they tend to have one thing in common: they’re very animated. Winston Churchill, John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. all are famous for their moving speeches and all gave off an air of confidence. They used grand hand gestures and were never still, always moving around the stage and making eye contact. Yes, what they were saying was important, but it was their body language that made the speeches captivating.

Winston Churchill

So the next time you’re facing an interview or an angry parent or customer, remember what you’re telling them not just with your words but with your posture. After all, it’s not what you saying but how you saying it.

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The world of marketing used to be centered around interruptions. As a marketer, my goal was to interrupt your day to present my pitch and motivate you to buy.

But times have changed and now more and more of marketing is focused on relationships. Relationships aren’t built on flashy billboards or expensive television ads – although those methods will grab people’s attention. Relationships are built with interactions and conversations.

When was the last time you heard a friend tell you about a really great customer service rep that they didn’t talk to? Of course, that doesn’t make any sense at all! Now when was the last time you were forced to work through an automated phone system and hung up the phone feeling abandoned? Odds are you’ve had an experience like that sometime in the recent past.

The foundation of a solid relationship is built on communication. We’ve all heard people say things like that when talking about marriages or dating. But if you think about it, communication is the foundation of a consumer’s relationship with a company, as well. In the marketing world communication can mean a lot of things, but the most effective way to communicate is the simplest way: have a conversation.

At Incept, it’s the job of our Conversational Marketing Experts (CMEs) to have productive conversations with our client’s customers. Many times this means that the job of our CMEs is really to deepen a relationship that already exists.

Let’s consider our CMEs who focus their time on calling blood donors to schedule appointments for our clients in the blood bank industry. The relationship between the blood donor and the blood bank might have been started by a radio advertisement explaining the need for blood donations. From there, the relationship is all about communication and interaction. Every chance the donor gets to speak with someone linked to the blood bank is a chance to deepen the relationship and further strengthen the bond.

In the end, a strong relationship built on communication breeds loyalty. What does a weak relationship that lacks communication breed? Lost opportunities.

What types of conversations do you use to build strong relationships?

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Simple actions can build positive relationships.

For the last month here at Incept, we have been talking about the term conversational marketing. We have talked about what it means and also how to incorporate it into your professional life, as well as benefit from it in your personal life.

I just wanted to take the time to share a brief example of a call that affected me in a positive manner recently. It demonstrates probably the most accurate example of what I think Incept, as a company, is striving to be and that is a quality conversational marketing firm.

The title of my blog is exactly what the voice I heard over my headset said to me.

It wasn’t the person who I was calling for but rather a Vietnam veteran on the other end. I found this bit of information out while asking if he would be interested in donating blood himself. From the moment the call started I got a sense of this man. He seemed to be having a melancholy day – to say the least – with the tone in his voice clearly conveying that fact. After unfortunately confirming that he was unable to donate, I proceeded to thank him for his time. In doing so I also thanked him for serving in Vietnam and doing his duty for his country. I always try to thank our military, police and firefighters simply out of respect for what they do. That doesn’t change if I have one on the phone either.

Immediately his tone changed. He burst into a graciously, friendly, “Thank you, sir. Thank you.” He then told me of how much he appreciated that I said that to him, and by the time the call was over, I sensed his mood had changed dramatically for the better.

That feeling has stuck with me for the last couple days. Having the knowledge of how much appreciation can affect someone, I am positive that even though I was unable to schedule this man, when we call back for the donor of the household, we will be received warmly.

Incept is a company that believes in its values. We understand we are calling real people and constantly make every effort to positively represent ourselves, while always looking to further our relationship with our clientele.

I’m curious how many out there have had something similar happen.

When was a time someone said something to you that changed your mood for the better? Have you ever affected someone’s life with a simple “Thank you!”?

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A good friend once tweeted, “Not even sleep can keep me from working!”

Those were the words up on Tim Johnson’s Facebook wall at something like 3:30 a.m. one morning. Tim was, of course, sound asleep but his Twitter & Facebook accounts were not.

Powered by tools like HootSuite (which we use daily at Incept), people now have the ability to press their online presence around the clock by scheduling content to go out at any time of the day on any of their social network profiles. That means social media has now become something more than organic. On my personal blog, a while back, I wrote about the irony of the term “organic social media.” It seems that on a deeper level, we’ve now turned social media into more of a law of physics.

The Law Of Constant Content: So long as social media exists, content will continue to be produced on a growing scale indefinitely.

I just made that up, but the point behind what I’m saying is valid. Facebook is showing no signs of its user base growth rate slowing or – much less – shrinking. So long as social media exists people will continue to join networks and keep sharing information 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

All you can do is arm yourself with the best tools possible and keep sorting through the content you deem to be useful. Past that, you have to accept that you’re going to miss things – that opportunities are going to pass you by. It’s just the nature of an online world that never sleeps, even if we have to.

What are you doing to maintain your presence online around the clock?

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